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[*] posted on 4.21.2014 at 11:01 AM
Ignoring an Inequality Culprit: Single-Parent Families


Suppose a scientific conference on cancer prevention never addressed smoking, on the grounds that in a free society you can't change private behavior, and anyway, maybe the statistical relationships between smoking and cancer are really caused by some other third variable. Wouldn't some suspect that the scientists who raised these claims were driven by something—ideology, tobacco money—other than science?

Yet in the current discussions about increased inequality, few researchers, fewer reporters, and no one in the executive branch of government directly addresses what seems to be the strongest statistical correlate of inequality in the United States: the rise of single-parent families during the past half century.

The two-parent family has declined rapidly in recent decades. In 1960, more than 76% of African-Americans and nearly 97% of whites were born to married couples. Today the percentage is 30% for blacks and 70% for whites. The out-of-wedlock birthrate for Hispanics surpassed 50% in 2006. This trend, coupled with high divorce rates, means that roughly 25% of American children now live in single-parent homes, twice the percentage in Europe (12%). Roughly a third of American children live apart from their fathers.

Does it matter? Yes, it does. From economist Susan Mayer's 1997 book "What Money Can't Buy" to Charles Murray's "Coming Apart" in 2012, clear-eyed studies of the modern family affirm the conventional wisdom that two parents work better than one.

"Americans have always thought that growing up with only one parent is bad for children," Ms. Mayer wrote. "The rapid spread of single-parent families over the past generation does not seem to have altered this consensus much."
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In an essay for the Institute for Family Studies last December, called "Even for Rich Kids, Marriage Matters," University of Virginia sociologist W. Bradford Wilcox reported that children in high-income households who experienced family breakups don't fare as well emotionally, psychologically, educationally or, in the end, economically as their two-parent-family peers.

Abuse, behavioral problems and psychological issues of all kinds, such as developmental behavior problems or concentration issues, are less common for children of married couples than for cohabiting or single parents, according to a 2003 Centers for Disease Control study of children's health. The causal pathways are about as clear as those from smoking to cancer.

More than 20% of children in single-parent families live in poverty long-term, compared with 2% of those raised in two-parent families, according to education-policy analyst Mitch Pearlstein's 2011 book "From Family Collapse to America's Decline." The poverty rate would be 25% lower if today's family structure resembled that of 1970, according to the 2009 report "Creating an Opportunity Society" from Brookings Institution analysts Ron Haskins and Isabel Sawhill. A 2006 article in the journal Demography by Penn State sociologist Molly Martin estimates that 41% of the economic inequality created between 1976-2000 was the result of changed family structure.

Earlier this year, a team of researchers led by Harvard economist Raj Chetty reported that communities with a high percentage of single-parent families are less likely to experience upward mobility. The researchers' report—"Where Is the Land of Opportunity?"—received considerable media attention. Yet mainstream news outlets tended to ignore the study's message about family structure, focusing instead on variables with far less statistical impact, such as residential segregation.

In the past four years, our two academic professional organizations—the American Political Science Association and the American Educational Research Association—have each dedicated annual meetings to inequality, with numerous papers and speeches denouncing free markets, the decline of unions, and "neoliberalism" generally as exacerbating economic inequality. Yet our searches of the groups' conference websites fail to turn up a single paper or panel addressing the effects of family change on inequality.

Why isn't this matter at the center of policy discussions? There are at least three reasons. First, much of politics is less about what you are for than who you are against, as Jonathan Haidt, a New York University psychology professor, noted in his popular 2012 book "The Righteous Mind." And intellectual and cultural elites lean to the left. So, quite simply, very few professors or journalists, and fewer still who want foundation grants, want to be seen as siding with social conservatives, even if the evidence leads that way.

Second, family breakup has hit minority communities the hardest. So even bringing up the issue risks being charged with racism, a potential career-killer. The experience of the late Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan is a cautionary tale: Moynihan, who had a doctorate in sociology, served in the Lyndon B. Johnson administration as an assistant secretary of labor and in 1965 published a paper titled "The Negro Family: The Case for National Action," warning about the long-term risk that single-parent households pose for black communities. He was attacked bitterly, and his academic reputation was tarnished for decades.

Finally, there is no quick fix. Welfare reform beginning in the mid-1990s offered only modest marriage incentives and has been insufficient to change entrenched cultural practices. The change must come from long-term societal transformation on this subject, led by political, educational and entertainment elites, similar to the decades-long movements against racism, sexism—and smoking.

But the first step is to acknowledge the problem.

Mr. Maranto is a professor in the Department of Education Reform at the University of Arkansas, where Mr. Crouch is a researcher.

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Just putting out there. They've ignored many other major contributors to poverty in the U.S., but then that was not the focus of the article. This is one contributor being ignored, they say somewhat convincingly, for political reasons. That's obvious to anyone paying attention. The resolutions conservatives propose, basically cutting everyone off of assistance, except the elderly and infirm, are heartless and extreme. We don't have to go there. There are better ways, starting with education.
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Second, family breakup has hit minority communities the hardest. So even bringing up the issue risks being charged with racism, a potential career-killer. The experience of the late Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan is a cautionary tale: Moynihan, who had a doctorate in sociology, served in the Lyndon B. Johnson administration as an assistant secretary of labor and in 1965 published a paper titled "The Negro Family: The Case for National Action," warning about the long-term risk that single-parent households pose for black communities. He was attacked bitterly, and his academic reputation was tarnished for decades.



And it DESERVED to be! Moynihan was reporting an AMERICAN phenomenon but because it was an "unpleasant" one, he put it ALL on black people. Remember the article's statistic - from 97% 2-parent homes in the '60s to 70% in 2 parent homes today (although that statistic is suspect since 4 out of 5 families do NOT represent the traditional nuclear family model.... according to the 2010 Census, only 20% of families consist of father who goes to work, mom who stays at home and takes care of 2.4 kids). Yet Moynihan said NOTHING about those falling rates in the white community. His report was fueled by racism thus he missed an opportunity to turn the nation's attention to a NATIONAL problem brewing - single parent homes.




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The effects of this trend has hit our communities the hardest. Patrick Moynihan was 100% correct in his prediction.
Look where we are in the span of 45 years.. We have generations of young women thinking it's perfectly normal to have a child with a man who is not committed to her. Generations of young men thinking it's ok make babies without any thought of financially supporting it. Sure there are plenty of white people like this. So what. Let's be honest here. Proportionately this phenomena of single mothers living in poverty affects our communities in greater numbers. And the consequences are felt from black communities in poor areas to middle class, in the form of street crime.

We can continue to shout 'racist!' when someone states the truth (or 'Tom!' when it's one of our own) and stick our heads in the sand or we can go about coming up with solutions. But we'll never work toward a real solution if we can't even recognize the problem.
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The effects of this trend has hit our communities the hardest. Patrick Moynihan was 100% correct in his prediction.
Look where we are in the span of 45 years..


100%? Yet he didn't predict WHITE out of wedlock babies growing exponentially? Puh-lese! The racist doesn't need the help of those he damns.

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We have generations of young women thinking it's perfectly normal to have a child with a man who is not committed to her. Generations of young men thinking it's ok make babies without any thought of financially supporting it. Sure there are plenty of white people like this. So what.



Oh, let's dump on the black folk, eh, and let the whites slide? You and Moynihan. :sarcastic:

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Let's be honest here.


I'm as honest as the day is long and just as fair in proportioning out the damnations.... unlike yourself and Moynihan who would label an AMERICAN problem a "black" problem because he thought it distasteful.

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Proportionately this phenomena of single mothers living in poverty affects our communities in greater numbers. And the consequences are felt from black communities in poor areas to middle class, in the form of street crime.


So being an out of wedlock baby is a legitimate (no pun intended) excuse for racist and black self-hating teachers to expel you from school at a disproportionate rate when you've committed the same infraction as the white kid who is NOT expelled; being an out of wedlock baby is a legitimate excuse for the city not to build recreation centers in your neighborhood... like they do libraries :) and for cops to stop you for DWB.... not to mention employers not to hire you. Okay. Figures. :sarcastic:

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We can continue to shout 'racist!' when someone states the truth (or 'Tom!' when it's one of our own) and stick our heads in the sand or we can go about coming up with solutions. But we'll never work toward a real solution if we can't even recognize the problem.


Since you approve of Moynihan IGNORING the slide to unwed motherhood in the white community, you also approve of white folk like Moynihan making the decision on what is a black problem.... and then have the gall to say WE should ignore what WE consider to be "problems" and go all ballistic over the outsider's decision? Puh-lese! :roll:

I could go into some people can't get their heads out of the 20th century and RECOGNIZE that times change, that youth of every generation decide what is important and unimportant to THEM, in this case, wedlock with abusive, fighting, cheating and vow-breaking before man and God, or single motherhood without the values and drama of the hypocrites who damn them....

I could, but I don't feel like it. :coffee:




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[*] posted on 5.2.2015 at 04:54 PM


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The effects of this trend has hit our communities the hardest. Patrick Moynihan was 100% correct in his prediction.
Look where we are in the span of 45 years..


100%? Yet he didn't predict WHITE out of wedlock babies growing exponentially? Puh-lese! The racist doesn't need the help of those he damns.

Quote:
We have generations of young women thinking it's perfectly normal to have a child with a man who is not committed to her. Generations of young men thinking it's ok make babies without any thought of financially supporting it. Sure there are plenty of white people like this. So what.



Oh, let's dump on the black folk, eh, and let the whites slide? You and Moynihan. :sarcastic:

Quote:
Let's be honest here.


I'm as honest as the day is long and just as fair in proportioning out the damnations.... unlike yourself and Moynihan who would label an AMERICAN problem a "black" problem because he thought it distasteful.

Quote:
Proportionately this phenomena of single mothers living in poverty affects our communities in greater numbers. And the consequences are felt from black communities in poor areas to middle class, in the form of street crime.


So being an out of wedlock baby is a legitimate (no pun intended) excuse for racist and black self-hating teachers to expel you from school at a disproportionate rate when you've committed the same infraction as the white kid who is NOT expelled; being an out of wedlock baby is a legitimate excuse for the city not to build recreation centers in your neighborhood... like they do libraries :) and for cops to stop you for DWB.... not to mention employers not to hire you. Okay. Figures. :sarcastic:

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We can continue to shout 'racist!' when someone states the truth (or 'Tom!' when it's one of our own) and stick our heads in the sand or we can go about coming up with solutions. But we'll never work toward a real solution if we can't even recognize the problem.


Since you approve of Moynihan IGNORING the slide to unwed motherhood in the white community, you also approve of white folk like Moynihan making the decision on what is a black problem.... and then have the gall to say WE should ignore what WE consider to be "problems" and go all ballistic over the outsider's decision? Puh-lese! :roll:

I could go into some people can't get their heads out of the 20th century and RECOGNIZE that times change, that youth of every generation decide what is important and unimportant to THEM, in this case, wedlock with abusive, fighting, cheating and vow-breaking before man and God, or single motherhood without the values and drama of the hypocrites who damn them....

I could, but I don't feel like it. :coffee:


Who cares why white women are spreading their legs without being married? It is our community which is mired in persistent and vicious circle of poverty. Though I agree that Mr. Moynihan's prediction's were correct, I don't believe anymore in some of the solutions his party has come up with to 'help'.
Indeed, some of this 'help' has ensured some members of our community stay mired in poverty and hopelessness, forever having the government in the most intimate part of their lives.
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The effects of this trend has hit our communities the hardest. Patrick Moynihan was 100% correct in his prediction.
Look where we are in the span of 45 years..


100%? Yet he didn't predict WHITE out of wedlock babies growing exponentially? Puh-lese! The racist doesn't need the help of those he damns.

Quote:
We have generations of young women thinking it's perfectly normal to have a child with a man who is not committed to her. Generations of young men thinking it's ok make babies without any thought of financially supporting it. Sure there are plenty of white people like this. So what.



Oh, let's dump on the black folk, eh, and let the whites slide? You and Moynihan. :sarcastic:

Quote:
Let's be honest here.


I'm as honest as the day is long and just as fair in proportioning out the damnations.... unlike yourself and Moynihan who would label an AMERICAN problem a "black" problem because he thought it distasteful.

Quote:
Proportionately this phenomena of single mothers living in poverty affects our communities in greater numbers. And the consequences are felt from black communities in poor areas to middle class, in the form of street crime.


So being an out of wedlock baby is a legitimate (no pun intended) excuse for racist and black self-hating teachers to expel you from school at a disproportionate rate when you've committed the same infraction as the white kid who is NOT expelled; being an out of wedlock baby is a legitimate excuse for the city not to build recreation centers in your neighborhood... like they do libraries :) and for cops to stop you for DWB.... not to mention employers not to hire you. Okay. Figures. :sarcastic:

Quote:

We can continue to shout 'racist!' when someone states the truth (or 'Tom!' when it's one of our own) and stick our heads in the sand or we can go about coming up with solutions. But we'll never work toward a real solution if we can't even recognize the problem.


Since you approve of Moynihan IGNORING the slide to unwed motherhood in the white community, you also approve of white folk like Moynihan making the decision on what is a black problem.... and then have the gall to say WE should ignore what WE consider to be "problems" and go all ballistic over the outsider's decision? Puh-lese! :roll:

I could go into some people can't get their heads out of the 20th century and RECOGNIZE that times change, that youth of every generation decide what is important and unimportant to THEM, in this case, wedlock with abusive, fighting, cheating and vow-breaking before man and God, or single motherhood without the values and drama of the hypocrites who damn them....

I could, but I don't feel like it. :coffee:


Who cares why white women are spreading their legs without being married?


Those who believe in fairness. Those who believe it's not JUST US, when talking about negative societal changes in America. Those who don't believe - and promote, if only by omission - the propaganda of white life being the epitome of civilized behavior and black life is NOT!

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It is our community which is mired in persistent and vicious circle of poverty. Though I agree that Mr. Moynihan's prediction's were correct, I don't believe anymore in some of the solutions his party has come up with to 'help'.


Exactly what I mean. Fairness. You agree that Moynihan's study of the Black Family and his prediction of a slide into marriageless households was the future for black women and children.... but not for whites - even though the composition of 75% of ALL American households today are nothing like those of the 1970's. Kinda like the National Institutes of Health's current study of teenaged black males gays and HIV. Any findings of the study will be limited to and predictable ONLY for teenaged black male gays.... not teenaged white male gays. (heavy sarcasm here, folks: ) Nah, what "negative" that is true for blacks of ANY category is NOT true for whites in those same categories, ergo the effects of gay sex are "different" on black children than they are on white ones.

Question: Are blacks and whites 2 different species such that behaviors that affect one do not affect the other (not asking Moynihan - I KNOW his answer :whistle: )?




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Originally posted by grrlie
The effects of this trend has hit our communities the hardest. Patrick Moynihan was 100% correct in his prediction.
Look where we are in the span of 45 years..


100%? Yet he didn't predict WHITE out of wedlock babies growing exponentially? Puh-lese! The racist doesn't need the help of those he damns.

Quote:
We have generations of young women thinking it's perfectly normal to have a child with a man who is not committed to her. Generations of young men thinking it's ok make babies without any thought of financially supporting it. Sure there are plenty of white people like this. So what.



Oh, let's dump on the black folk, eh, and let the whites slide? You and Moynihan. :sarcastic:

Quote:
Let's be honest here.


I'm as honest as the day is long and just as fair in proportioning out the damnations.... unlike yourself and Moynihan who would label an AMERICAN problem a "black" problem because he thought it distasteful.

Quote:
Proportionately this phenomena of single mothers living in poverty affects our communities in greater numbers. And the consequences are felt from black communities in poor areas to middle class, in the form of street crime.


So being an out of wedlock baby is a legitimate (no pun intended) excuse for racist and black self-hating teachers to expel you from school at a disproportionate rate when you've committed the same infraction as the white kid who is NOT expelled; being an out of wedlock baby is a legitimate excuse for the city not to build recreation centers in your neighborhood... like they do libraries :) and for cops to stop you for DWB.... not to mention employers not to hire you. Okay. Figures. :sarcastic:

Quote:

We can continue to shout 'racist!' when someone states the truth (or 'Tom!' when it's one of our own) and stick our heads in the sand or we can go about coming up with solutions. But we'll never work toward a real solution if we can't even recognize the problem.


Since you approve of Moynihan IGNORING the slide to unwed motherhood in the white community, you also approve of white folk like Moynihan making the decision on what is a black problem.... and then have the gall to say WE should ignore what WE consider to be "problems" and go all ballistic over the outsider's decision? Puh-lese! :roll:

I could go into some people can't get their heads out of the 20th century and RECOGNIZE that times change, that youth of every generation decide what is important and unimportant to THEM, in this case, wedlock with abusive, fighting, cheating and vow-breaking before man and God, or single motherhood without the values and drama of the hypocrites who damn them....

I could, but I don't feel like it. :coffee:


Who cares why white women are spreading their legs without being married?


Those who believe in fairness. Those who believe it's not JUST US, when talking about negative societal changes in America. Those who don't believe - and promote, if only by omission - the propaganda of white life being the epitome of civilized behavior and black life is NOT!

Quote:
It is our community which is mired in persistent and vicious circle of poverty. Though I agree that Mr. Moynihan's prediction's were correct, I don't believe anymore in some of the solutions his party has come up with to 'help'.


Exactly what I mean. Fairness. You agree that Moynihan's study of the Black Family and his prediction of a slide into marriageless households was the future for black women and children.... but not for whites - even though the composition of 75% of ALL American households today are nothing like those of the 1970's. Kinda like the National Institutes of Health's current study of teenaged black males gays and HIV. Any findings of the study will be limited to and predictable ONLY for teenaged black male gays.... not teenaged white male gays. (heavy sarcasm here, folks: ) Nah, what "negative" that is true for blacks of ANY category is NOT true for whites in those same categories, ergo the effects of gay sex are "different" on black children than they are on white ones.

Question: Are blacks and whites 2 different species such that behaviors that affect one do not affect the other (not asking Moynihan - I KNOW his answer :whistle: )?


Yes I know American families have changed, but we are the ones who are worse for wear. We're are now at a 72% out of wedlock birth rate. No other group is that high. And the chances of a single mother ending up living in poverty versus one who is married are greater, regardless of race. These are simple facts. We are doing this to ourselves, with the popular culture cheering on.
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Originally posted by grrlie
The effects of this trend has hit our communities the hardest. Patrick Moynihan was 100% correct in his prediction.
Look where we are in the span of 45 years..


100%? Yet he didn't predict WHITE out of wedlock babies growing exponentially? Puh-lese! The racist doesn't need the help of those he damns.

Quote:
We have generations of young women thinking it's perfectly normal to have a child with a man who is not committed to her. Generations of young men thinking it's ok make babies without any thought of financially supporting it. Sure there are plenty of white people like this. So what.



Oh, let's dump on the black folk, eh, and let the whites slide? You and Moynihan. :sarcastic:

Quote:
Let's be honest here.


I'm as honest as the day is long and just as fair in proportioning out the damnations.... unlike yourself and Moynihan who would label an AMERICAN problem a "black" problem because he thought it distasteful.

Quote:
Proportionately this phenomena of single mothers living in poverty affects our communities in greater numbers. And the consequences are felt from black communities in poor areas to middle class, in the form of street crime.


So being an out of wedlock baby is a legitimate (no pun intended) excuse for racist and black self-hating teachers to expel you from school at a disproportionate rate when you've committed the same infraction as the white kid who is NOT expelled; being an out of wedlock baby is a legitimate excuse for the city not to build recreation centers in your neighborhood... like they do libraries :) and for cops to stop you for DWB.... not to mention employers not to hire you. Okay. Figures. :sarcastic:

Quote:

We can continue to shout 'racist!' when someone states the truth (or 'Tom!' when it's one of our own) and stick our heads in the sand or we can go about coming up with solutions. But we'll never work toward a real solution if we can't even recognize the problem.


Since you approve of Moynihan IGNORING the slide to unwed motherhood in the white community, you also approve of white folk like Moynihan making the decision on what is a black problem.... and then have the gall to say WE should ignore what WE consider to be "problems" and go all ballistic over the outsider's decision? Puh-lese! :roll:

I could go into some people can't get their heads out of the 20th century and RECOGNIZE that times change, that youth of every generation decide what is important and unimportant to THEM, in this case, wedlock with abusive, fighting, cheating and vow-breaking before man and God, or single motherhood without the values and drama of the hypocrites who damn them....

I could, but I don't feel like it. :coffee:


Who cares why white women are spreading their legs without being married?


Those who believe in fairness. Those who believe it's not JUST US, when talking about negative societal changes in America. Those who don't believe - and promote, if only by omission - the propaganda of white life being the epitome of civilized behavior and black life is NOT!

Quote:
It is our community which is mired in persistent and vicious circle of poverty. Though I agree that Mr. Moynihan's prediction's were correct, I don't believe anymore in some of the solutions his party has come up with to 'help'.


Exactly what I mean. Fairness. You agree that Moynihan's study of the Black Family and his prediction of a slide into marriageless households was the future for black women and children.... but not for whites - even though the composition of 75% of ALL American households today are nothing like those of the 1970's. Kinda like the National Institutes of Health's current study of teenaged black males gays and HIV. Any findings of the study will be limited to and predictable ONLY for teenaged black male gays.... not teenaged white male gays. (heavy sarcasm here, folks: ) Nah, what "negative" that is true for blacks of ANY category is NOT true for whites in those same categories, ergo the effects of gay sex are "different" on black children than they are on white ones.

Question: Are blacks and whites 2 different species such that behaviors that affect one do not affect the other (not asking Moynihan - I KNOW his answer :whistle: )?


Yes I know American families have changed, but we are the ones who are worse for wear.


So the 75% of white Americans who DON'T live in a traditional family setting are NOT doing "worse?" :ummm:

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We're are now at a 72% out of wedlock birth rate. No other group is that high.


In the 1980s, 90% black babies were born into single parent families. In 2015, that figure has decreased to 72%? :wow: Instead of wringing your hands, you should be cheering!

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And the chances of a single mother ending up living in poverty versus one who is married are greater, regardless of race.


Thank you including white mothers in your doom and gloom scenario. In other words, it's an AMERICAN problem, not a black one. Especially considering that married or not, black women/families of ALL compositions are poorer than white women/families.

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These are simple facts. We are doing this to ourselves, with the popular culture cheering on.


How foolish. The "popular" culture :dunno: looks to black people to be the cutting edge in social change. Once whites adopt the most relevant parts of our lead - in this case, the dearth of male support/devotion/fealty to marriage vows, the refusal to live the "perfect" family lie, to give lip service to the hypocrisy of the "perfect" 1950's family where publicly, dad goes to work, momma stays at home and raises 2.3 children, but behind closed doors, dad is a man-hoe and moms is a betrayed, unappreciated and frustrated alcoholic - the AMERICAN culture will change to accommodate their needs.... and trickle down to accommodate us.

As evidenced by the rapid rise in the 1980's and fall in the 21st century of out of wedlock birth statistics, AMERICAN culture is in a state of flux. Either go with the flow or find solutions to the stabilize the culture, but don't blame the poor, dispossessed black minority for not fixing the social ailments of the fat cat, white majority squatting on us, pressing on our edges like a vise, fast enough.




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Statistical proof that Daniel Moynihan is a racist, predicting an American trend NOT limited to black people


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60% of all out of wedlock babies are born to white women
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The effects of this trend has hit our communities the hardest. Patrick Moynihan was 100% correct in his prediction.


60% of all out of wedlock babies are born to white women
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How about proportion, Teahoney? We are 12 - 13% of the population, Teahoney. But more than that, so what? This is still hitting our communities the hardest. 72% of black children will grow up in a single parent household, most likely headed by a mother. 72% of children in OUR communities will lack the kind of male role model who stays with and protects his family. That is what a man is supposed to do. Being a real man instead of just a sperm donor is becoming a foreign concept.
72% percent of OUR children risk growing up in a household lacking not just economic security, but emotional security of having two parents. You think it really doesn't matter?
People complain about the worsening condition of the schools, but it really starts with the home. It starts with a parent being around to teach the child 1. How to read and 2. How to behave. The school systems are being asked to raise children and they cannot.

I've meandered off the main topic a bit, but it is because all of this rolls down hill. The destruction of the black family has consequences in numerous ways. I am disgusted by the response of people like you and others who refuse to see the truth (or more likely know it, but are dug in to their dogma) and instead go back to the same old mantra of blaming others for our problems.
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[*] posted on 5.3.2015 at 01:56 PM


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The effects of this trend has hit our communities the hardest. Patrick Moynihan was 100% correct in his prediction.


60% of all out of wedlock babies are born to white women
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How about proportion, Teahoney? We are 12 - 13% of the population, Teahoney. But more than that, so what?


So what is your disgusting HATRED for black people! Scheesh! You kiss the racist Moynihan's azz and promote his :bs: and when he's PROVEN to be wrong? We're 12 - 13% of the population....

Guess what, grrlie? The remaining 40% of Out of Wedlock mothers aren't black. (dayum!) I think minorities in America combined make up 35% of the population. So prolly somewhere in that remaining 40% are Hispanics (psssst! The LARGEST and most prolific baby-making minority :roll: ) and Asians and all the other "others."

And until you can prove otherwise, that the remaining 40% of out of wedlock babies are being born SOLELY to black women (dayum! dayum! DOUBLE dayum! at the black self-hate!), I'm not entertaining anymore of your fervency to make black people the lowest of the low.

Especially when you NEVER answer one question or concept put to you, e.g., like out of wedlock babies are an AMERICAN issue, not a black one.... which is the answer to the :bs: premise you started this thread with.




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Move along.. Nothing to see here because white people have out of wedlock babies too.

Stupid and tragic.
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[*] posted on 5.3.2015 at 08:17 PM


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Move along.. Nothing to see here because white people have out of wedlock babies too.

Stupid and tragic.


No, what's :stupid: is a black woman who hates black people so much she cheerleads racist white men in denigrating the black community. What's tragic is she has access to the World Wide Web on which to spew her pathology. :hater:

Now! Moving along... :coffee:




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