Lazar
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![[*]](./images/Pinky/default_icon.gif) posted on 5.11.2012 at 12:43 AM |
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Same Sex Marriage
The only same sex marriage that I am concerned about are those attached to my billfold:
Washington
Llncoln
Jefferson
Benjamins
Although, this is an anomaly --that I do not personally endorse, I could care less about same sex marriages, in general.
On Thursday, President Obama announced his endorsement of this gender type. He didn't announce that the economy was failing (eg it's in a surplus,
in fact), he didn't announce that unemployment was on the rise (eg. it's at 8.2%) -- so I'm good!
He is still the best man for the job.
He will WIN in Novemer 2012
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BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF TIME WERE THE SIBYLS -- A SUPPRESSED HER STORY YET TO UNFOLD --Mama Zogbe' (Vivian Hunter-Hindrew)
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grrlie
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| posted on 5.11.2012 at 05:07 AM |
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'bout time he got off the fence. Good on him.
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Lazar
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| posted on 5.11.2012 at 10:16 AM |
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LOL
It was a political "chess" move. His campaign contributions shott up $90M in the last 24 hours.
| Quote: | Originally posted by grrlie
'bout time he got off the fence. Good on him. |
BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF TIME WERE THE SIBYLS -- A SUPPRESSED HER STORY YET TO UNFOLD --Mama Zogbe' (Vivian Hunter-Hindrew)
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spitlogic
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| posted on 5.11.2012 at 11:45 AM |
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I don't think he believes what he says about it, but I agree. It makes little difference to me if two men or two women get married. I just don't
believe a religious institution should be forced to do it if that contradicts their culture.
Be polite. Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
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Lazar
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| posted on 5.11.2012 at 06:34 PM |
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True
his sentiments run along a political line of thinking...!
| Quote: | Originally posted by spitlogic
I don't think he believes what he says about it, but I agree. It makes little difference to me if two men or two women get married. I just don't
believe a religious institution should be forced to do it if that contradicts their culture. |
BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF TIME WERE THE SIBYLS -- A SUPPRESSED HER STORY YET TO UNFOLD --Mama Zogbe' (Vivian Hunter-Hindrew)
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grrlie
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| posted on 5.11.2012 at 08:57 PM |
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I can't see why a religious institution would be forced to marry gays when they're not prohibited from turning away straight couple now. For
instance the catholics won't marry divorcee's and make the couples that do marry take classes.
And there are plenty of churches willing to marry them anyway.
What would change?
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Lazar
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| posted on 5.11.2012 at 09:27 PM |
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IMHO
the more things change to the more they stay the same.
If memory serves "Change" was the operative theme of President Obama's campaign before he was elected.
We, therefore, are getting a taste of change...spoonful by spoonful...!
| Quote: | Originally posted by grrlie
I can't see why a religious institution would be forced to marry gays when they're not prohibited from turning away straight couple now. For
instance the catholics won't marry divorcee's and make the couples that do marry take classes.
And there are plenty of churches willing to marry them anyway.
What would change? |
BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF TIME WERE THE SIBYLS -- A SUPPRESSED HER STORY YET TO UNFOLD --Mama Zogbe' (Vivian Hunter-Hindrew)
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spitlogic
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| posted on 5.11.2012 at 10:08 PM |
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I can't remember the exact story, but I do remember a catholic church, which was receiving government funding, had to cover women for abortions
through their health care plan. Though it is against catholic doctrine to have an aborting (at least from my understanding) they still had to provide
the service because they were funded by the government. With the way that things are in the military I can easily see a chaplain having to marry and
counsel a same sex couple.
So even though we live in a Church separate from state nation there are still many elements that tend to blur the line.
Be polite. Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
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grrlie
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| posted on 5.12.2012 at 05:37 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by spitlogic
I can't remember the exact story, but I do remember a catholic church, which was receiving government funding, had to cover women for
abortions through their health care plan. Though it is against catholic doctrine to have an aborting (at least from my understanding) they
still had to provide the service because they were funded by the government. With the way that things are in the military I can easily see a chaplain
having to marry and counsel a same sex couple.
So even though we live in a Church separate from state nation there are still many elements that tend to blur the line. |
I find that difficult to believe, not that you read a story like that, but of the claims made in this story. There is a heated debate going on about
catholic institutions, such as schools, hospitals, and universities, being required to cover contraceptatives under the new health care law,
but actual church's are completely exempt from those rules.
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Lazar
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| posted on 5.12.2012 at 12:51 PM |
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blur the line
gray areas (how ever you want to put it) ...is the norm. The gub'ment has always funded abortions via 'planned parenthood' and/or any other
organizition that receives federal (e.g. taxpayers) money....!
| Quote: | Originally posted by spitlogic
I can't remember the exact story, but I do remember a catholic church, which was receiving government funding, had to cover women for abortions
through their health care plan. Though it is against catholic doctrine to have an aborting (at least from my understanding) they still had to provide
the service because they were funded by the government. With the way that things are in the military I can easily see a chaplain having to marry and
counsel a same sex couple.
So even though we live in a Church separate from state nation there are still many elements that tend to blur the line. |
BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF TIME WERE THE SIBYLS -- A SUPPRESSED HER STORY YET TO UNFOLD --Mama Zogbe' (Vivian Hunter-Hindrew)
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Tea_Honey
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| posted on 5.12.2012 at 01:13 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by spitlogic
I can't remember the exact story, but I do remember a catholic church, which was receiving government funding, had to cover women for abortions
through their health care plan. Though it is against catholic doctrine to have an aborting (at least from my understanding) they still had to provide
the service because they were funded by the government. With the way that things are in the military I can easily see a chaplain having to marry and
counsel a same sex couple.
So even though we live in a Church separate from state nation there are still many elements that tend to blur the line. |
By accepting government funds, i.e., by having the government PAY at least a part of its insurance out of monies collected from NON-Catholics who
wouldn't give them a dime otherwise, the Catholic church gave the state permission to monitor its health plan. All they have to do is to not
accept taxpayer money and the feds can't touch them. There was no "blurring" of the line between church and state. The Catholic church
jumped over the line to get that money which it knew BEFOREHAND had strings attached.
Even though chaplins are subject to the rules of the military, they are not required to go against their faith for any military personnel. For
instance, a Catholic priest-chaplain would NOT be required to administer the last rites to a non-Catholic. Since almost all religions consider
homosexuality to be a sin, I don't see any chaplin being court-martialed because he chose his faith over his government. Should for some
insane, totally self-defeating reason the government actually put a chaplin on trial for refusing to marry a same-sex couple, well, martial
law would have to be declared across the entirety of the U.S. when civilians went to war against its military. Trust! It will not happen.
Out of Love, you can speak with straight fury
Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it
Choose your hypnotist well.....
Ergo, the blue pill (illusion), or the red pill (reality)
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Lazar
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| posted on 5.12.2012 at 01:26 PM |
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This is the effect of Obama's Endorsement
Donations
Overflow
BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF TIME WERE THE SIBYLS -- A SUPPRESSED HER STORY YET TO UNFOLD --Mama Zogbe' (Vivian Hunter-Hindrew)
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spitlogic
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| posted on 5.13.2012 at 11:30 AM |
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grrlie. You're right. It was contraceptives and not abortions. I do agree that the separation of church and state will remain separate. I do I
know there are extremists on every side of the issue and that the conservative propaganda machine will probably exaggerate the issue. I believe
there are more impotent things that we have to be wary of to worry about this.
Be polite. Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
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Lazar
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| posted on 5.18.2012 at 07:27 AM |
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Opinions versus facts
President Obama is certainly entitled to his "opinion" for political reasons, of course. Yet my juxtaposition stands on the fact that this behavior
type is counter-productive towards a continuation of creation on this planet we call earth.
I wear the NKWA (eg. ankh) because I know it is an ancient African symbol that represents the absolute and natural union between man and woman:
Life.
BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF TIME WERE THE SIBYLS -- A SUPPRESSED HER STORY YET TO UNFOLD --Mama Zogbe' (Vivian Hunter-Hindrew)
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Tea_Honey
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| posted on 5.18.2012 at 01:17 PM |
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I'm sure Obama is aware that gays can only procreate with opposite sex partners. His interest lies in getting gay votes and of course, the
contributions you mentioned.
Out of Love, you can speak with straight fury
Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it
Choose your hypnotist well.....
Ergo, the blue pill (illusion), or the red pill (reality)
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