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A Comparison Between (Real) Islaam and Farakhanism


A Comparison Between Islaam and Farakhanism


ISLAM, and so-called “NATION OF ISLAM” are two complete different religions.
The Only thing common between them is the jargon, the language used by the both. “The nation of Islam” is a misnomer; this religion should be called Farrakhanism, after the name of its propagator. The religion of Elijah Muhammad and W. D. Muhammad, integrated the community with the Muslim community at-large, following the Qur’an and Hadith of Prophet Muhammad. Louis Farrakhan joined W.D. Muhammad and gave his pledge of allegiance to him after Elijah Mohammad’s death; he later rebelled and broke his oath with impunity, or without paying any expiation, and restarted “THE NATION OF ISLAM.”

Examine the following comparisons between Islam and Farrakhanism with regard to the belief or practice in each.

BELIEF /PRACTICE

ISLAM

God / Allaah Alone

ISLAM: One Unique, never appeared in any physical form; hence, no physical representation is possible. He is recognized through his 99 names.

Prophet / Messenger

Muhammad (pbuh) is the last Prophet and the last Messenger. No Messenger or prophet will come after Muhammad (pbuh).

The Last Day /The Life hereafter

The life on earth as we know it will come to an end; it will be followed by the life hereafter, which includes physical resurrection of the entire humankind, judgment and the life of paradise or hell.

The Qur’an

It was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) between 610 and 632 C.E. It is the last revelation of Allaah to mankind.

The Bible

It was revealed to prophets and messenger from Moses (pbuh) to Jesus (pbuh) but was corrupted. Authenticity of statements in the Bible are judged by the Qur’an.

Shahadah

It means what it say, that is, Allaah is Unseen. HE is the Creator, the Sustainer. Mankind is accountable to Him Alone, and Prophet Muhammad of Arabia (pbuh) is the final and ultimate ROLE MODEL; no one can substitute.

Salah

Five times a day is required; SALAH (prayer) includes QIYAM (Standing), RUKUH’ (bowing), SAJDA (Prostration), JALSA (Sitting on the floor) and recitations.

Zakat

Require on accumulated wealth after. Having in possession for one year above the NISAB (certain limits), as defined in SHARI’A (Islamic Law).

Sawm/Hajj

Fasting is required in the month of Ramadan, ninth month of Islamic calendar.

Required once in a lifetime if conditions of finances, health and safety of travel are met.


Lawful (Halal) / Unlawful (Haram)

Determined by Allaah, the God Alone, announced in the Qur’an or by the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Recorded in the authentic Hadith sources.


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FARRAKHANISM

God / Allaah Alone
“…Allaah (GOD) appeared in the Person of Master W. Fard Muhammad, July 1930; the long awaited ‘Messiah of the Christian and the ‘Mahdi” of the Muslim.”

Prophet / Messenger

Elijah Muhammad was a “Messenger of Allaah.’ Are there anymore messenger or Prophet after Muhammad (pbuh).


The Last Day /The Life hereafter

“…BELIEVE in the resurrection of the dead - not in physical resurrection, but in mental resurrection.” “No already physical dead person will be in Hereafter; that is slavery belief, taught to slaves to keep them under control.’ “When you are dead, you are DEAD.”

The Qur’an

Contradictory beliefs, On one side” …BELIEVE in the Holy Qur’an and in the scriptures of all the Prophets of GOD,” and on the other side, “We, the original nation of the it is done by twenty-four of our scientist.” “Both the present Bible and the Holy Qur’an must soon give way to the Holy Book..”


The Bible

(See their beliefs above regarding the Qur’an)


Shahadah

A cover up deceived gullible Muslim. “Allaah (God) appeared in the persons of Master W. Fard Muhammad,” and Muhammad of Arabia was one of the prophet, not role model for our times. The real role model and lawgiver for our times is Elijah Muhammad.

Salah

No five times daily SALAH (prayer); prayer, when done has no RUKU’(bowing) or SAJDA (Prostration). Friday is a major congregation prayer day, nor for SALAH, but to say DU’A and to listen to a Minister.

Zakat

It is a tax as “poor due” on income, similar to income tax. Who benefits?

Sawm/Hajj

Fasting is required in December only. Fasting in the Month of Ramadan is optional No Hajj requirement. Farrakhan and his cronies take trips to Saudi Arabia, and by the way, to Makkah for the main purpose of image building and to raise funds from gullible rich Arabs.

Lawful (Halal) / Unlawful (Haram)

Determine by W.D. Fraud and announced by Elijah Muhammad. The Qur’an and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) have neither relevance nor authority with regard to lawful and unlawful.
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Allaahu Akhbar. It is sooo important for people to see that there are differences in the two and that they are not one in the same. I applaud you for posting this. Masha'Allaah, and may Allaah reward you, Ameen!



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I can't tell you what the difference is in Farrakhanism and Islam but I can tell you what the difference is in Orthodox Islam and The Nation of Islam!!

You Orthodox Arab Islam following Muslims act like the "Form" of Islam you follow the Prophet followed! The Prophet you Claim to follow knew nothing about the Islam that you follow!!

The difference in the Nation of Islam and Orthodox Arab Islam is that Orthodox Arab Islam is tailor made for Arabs and The Nation of Islam as taught by The Honorable Elijah Muhammad is tailor made for the Blackman and woman!
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Nope, the difference between NOI and Orthodox Islam is what was mentioned above. The main issue that I have with NOI is that they focus so much on belittling the white man and Arabs and anything outside of their organization that I can't figure out when there is time to address religion at its core.

But then again, you didn't refute any of the facts stated by Abu Khaled...you just came in and ranted...just like I expected..

Truly, this is getting rather tiresome.




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A Comparison Between Islaam and Farakhanism


ISLAM, and so-called “NATION OF ISLAM” are two complete different religions. The Only thing common between them is the jargon, the language used by the both. “The nation of Islam” is a misnomer; this religion should be called Farrakhanism, after the name of its propagator. The religion of Elijah Muhammad and W. D. Muhammad, integrated the community with the Muslim community at-large, following the Qur’an and Hadith of Prophet Muhammad. Louis Farrakhan joined W.D. Muhammad and gave his pledge of allegiance to him after Elijah Mohammad’s death; he later rebelled and broke his oath with impunity, or without paying any expiation, and restarted “THE NATION OF ISLAM.”

Examine the following comparisons between Islam and Farrakhanism with regard to the belief or practice in each.

BELIEF /PRACTICE

ISLAM

God / Allaah Alone
ISLAM: One Unique, never appeared in any physical form; hence, no physical representation is possible. He is recognized through his 99 names.


By whose understanding? Shia, Sufi or Sunni/Salafi?

If you believe Sunni/Salafi .... you must understand that if you suggest that the only way to be a Muslim is to imitate the life of Prophet Muhammad then you must remove the title of Muslim from all of the Prophets that have come before him.....

Because they did not follow him...

Islam is bigger than the life of Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)... though his example is one to look towards it is not the defining and only example...

Allah did not send the world Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)to emulate him.... Allah sent Prophet Muhammad to deliver a warning to the Arabs, correction of scripture and to deliver righteous principles of life to the world...

Islam does not equal Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) clones...




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Prophet / Messenger
Muhammad (pbuh) is the last Prophet and the last Messenger. No Messenger or prophet will come after Muhammad (pbuh).


It is not in the Holy Qur'an that Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) is the last messenger...

In fact in the Holy Qur'an we are taught that every people receive a messenger....

Unless the world became unpopulated with only the Prophet (pbuh)and his companions.... then you would have to deny Allah's words in the Holy Qur'an...


For We assuredly sent amongst every People an apostle, (with the Command), "Serve Allah, and eschew Evil": of the People were some whom Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably (established). So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth).

Yusuf Ali 16:36

And certainly We raised in every nation a messenger, saying: Serve Allah and shun the devil.

Maulana Ali 16:36

"And to ‘Ad (in Arabia) We sent their brother Hud. He said my people, serve Allah, you have no god other than Him ...... I am a messenger of the Lord of the worlds ...... Do you wonder that a reminder has come to you from your Lord through a man from among you that he may warn you?" -

Holy Qur'an 7:65-69


"And mention (Hud) the brother of Ad (in Arabia); when he warned his people in the sandy plains - and warners indeed came before him and after him — saying: Serve none but Allah. Surely I fear for you the chastisement of a grievous day." -


Holy Qur'an 46:21

For over 400 years Arab nations were in bed with the west... while our people lay languishing in slavery....

no one came for us.... no Arabs came for us.... However one man did.... and we were lifted... and now Islam has a foothold here in America because of it...

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) nor his companions came for us... Master Fard Muhammad did.....

A messenger was raised among us.... and here many of us today are Muslim.....


There is no ending to Allah's message... Allah did not suddenly stop granting wisdom because Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) died....


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The Last Day /The Life hereafter
The life on earth as we know it will come to an end; it will be followed by the life hereafter, which includes physical resurrection of the entire humankind, judgment and the life of paradise or hell.


The Holy Quran is part allegory and part instruction....

our minds see what we want it to see...

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The Qur’an
It was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) between 610 and 632 C.E. It is the last revelation of Allaah to mankind.

The Bible
It was revealed to prophets and messenger from Moses (pbuh) to Jesus (pbuh) but was corrupted. Authenticity of statements in the Bible are judged by the Qur’an.

Shahadah
It means what it say, that is, Allaah is Unseen. HE is the Creator, the Sustainer. Mankind is accountable to Him Alone, and Prophet Muhammad of Arabia (pbuh) is the final and ultimate ROLE MODEL; no one can substitute.

Salah
Five times a day is required; SALAH (prayer) includes QIYAM (Standing), RUKUH’ (bowing), SAJDA (Prostration), JALSA (Sitting on the floor) and recitations.

Zakat
Require on accumulated wealth after. Having in possession for one year above the NISAB (certain limits), as defined in SHARI’A (Islamic Law).

Sawm/Hajj
Fasting is required in the month of Ramadan, ninth month of Islamic calendar.

Required once in a lifetime if conditions of finances, health and safety of travel are met.


Lawful (Halal) / Unlawful (Haram)
Determined by Allaah, the God Alone, announced in the Qur’an or by the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Recorded in the authentic Hadith sources.


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FARRAKHANISM

God / Allaah Alone
“…Allaah (GOD) appeared in the Person of Master W. Fard Muhammad, July 1930; the long awaited ‘Messiah of the Christian and the ‘Mahdi” of the Muslim.”

Prophet / Messenger
Elijah Muhammad was a “Messenger of Allaah.’ Are there anymore messenger or Prophet after Muhammad (pbuh).


The Last Day /The Life hereafter
“…BELIEVE in the resurrection of the dead - not in physical resurrection, but in mental resurrection.” “No already physical dead person will be in Hereafter; that is slavery belief, taught to slaves to keep them under control.’ “When you are dead, you are DEAD.”

The Qur’an
Contradictory beliefs, On one side” …BELIEVE in the Holy Qur’an and in the scriptures of all the Prophets of GOD,” and on the other side, “We, the original nation of the it is done by twenty-four of our scientist.” “Both the present Bible and the Holy Qur’an must soon give way to the Holy Book..”


The Bible
(See their beliefs above regarding the Qur’an)


Shahadah
A cover up deceived gullible Muslim. “Allaah (God) appeared in the persons of Master W. Fard Muhammad,” and Muhammad of Arabia was one of the prophet, not role model for our times. The real role model and lawgiver for our times is Elijah Muhammad.

Salah
No five times daily SALAH (prayer); prayer, when done has no RUKU’(bowing) or SAJDA (Prostration). Friday is a major congregation prayer day, nor for SALAH, but to say DU’A and to listen to a Minister.

Zakat
It is a tax as “poor due” on income, similar to income tax. Who benefits?

Sawm/Hajj
Fasting is required in December only. Fasting in the Month of Ramadan is optional No Hajj requirement. Farrakhan and his cronies take trips to Saudi Arabia, and by the way, to Makkah for the main purpose of image building and to raise funds from gullible rich Arabs.

Lawful (Halal) / Unlawful (Haram)
Determine by W.D. Fraud and announced by Elijah Muhammad. The Qur’an and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) have neither relevance nor authority with regard to lawful and unlawful.


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WalHumdulillah (All praise and thanks be to Allah)


Our Religion is NOT based on our opinions and desires; therefore, any Tom, D ick, or Harry can't just pick up materials about Islaam and explain it anyway he or she sees fit. That's why you have so much deviation, and why the preivious nations have been misled (Christian and Jewish). They didn't rely on the revelation; so one does not know the truth and invents it, and the other knows, but does not act upon it. As a result they have changed it to fit there own whims and desires.


Islaam on the other hand, is based on The Revelation of The Qur'aan, The Sunnah (the statements, actions, deeds, and approvals of The Last Prophet and Messenger Muhhamed Ibn Abdullah), and The Understanding of The Companions (The 1st Three Generation of Muslims), and Those Scholars (and students of knowledge) that follow them in good until The Last Day.


Allaah says, "this day have I perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islaam as your religion" (5:4)

And we Have from

Zahdam ibn Mudrab narrated: I heard 'Imraan ibn Husayn saying: The Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) said:

((The best people are those living in my generation, then those coming after them, and then those coming after (the second generation).)), [Saheehal-Bukhaaree, 3/219]

'Abdullaah ibn Mas'ood (radhi-yallaahu 'anhu) narrated: The Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) said:

((The people of my generation are the best, then those who follow them, and then those who follow the latter)), [Saheeh al-Bukhaaree, 3/820]


And we do not proceed them in statements about The Religion of Truth (Islaam), so if there are scholars who have the insight and understanding dealing with the issues,


how can some kaffir [one that does not believe in Allah and the religion of Islaam ) come along and give religious rulings and verdicts?


This is not allowed in Islaam:

Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur'ân) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption). (Al-Hijr 15:9)




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Al Islam was BEFORE Arabs BEFORE Muhammed


Assalam alaikum

I noticed to issue here and these arguments have been addressed.

Elijah Muhammed said himself 'I have come to ressurect a people from the BIBLE"

On his death bed he said to Warith Deen Muhammed "Now teach them Islam"

Thus that ends the argument about the 'differences'...

My point and effort is to dispel the myth that Al Islam is an Arab religion

I will post a few references from several sources and a video. Perhaps that will open up some dialogue on the subject.

Original Arabs were Black and they existed before Ishmael, his father and his; grandfather. The FIRST to speak classical Arabic was Yu Arab Ibn Qahtan. In fact this ‘Yu’Arab’ became the name given to this ancient Afro/ Arab tribe. This was cited by As-Suyuti in his al-Wasaa’il fi Musaamarat al-Awaa’il

Qahtan was the ancestor of the Arabs called Arab Al-Muta’arribah who had mixed with the original true Arabs called Arab al-‘Aribah or the Arab al-Baa’idah (the lost Arabs). They are called lost, because their identity submerged into other African tribes who lived in remote Arabia Felix (Yemen) , Somalia, Ethiopia, the Tigre of Eritrea and Nubia

The Northern Arab tribes of Iraq, Syria, and the Persian Gulf were called Arab al-Musta’ribah (‘Arabized Arabs’) who claimed descent from Adnan, and through him, from Isma’il the son of Ibrahim, upon him be peace.

Thus the Arabs you see on TV and at your local store are NOT the ORIGINAL Arabs!

EBONY AND BRONZE RACE AND ETHNICITY IN EARLY ARABIA AND THE ISLAMIC WORLD By Wayne B. Chandler in ‘African Presence in Early Asia’ by Van Sertima Page 287

According to AI-Jahiz, the guardian of the sacred Kaaba Abd Al-Muttalib fathered ten Lords, Black as the night and magnificent. One of these men was Abdallah, the father of Muhammad. Uthman Amr lbn Bahr Al-Jahiz. The Book of the Glory of the Black Race (Los Angeles: Preston, 1981), 50.

Al-Jahiz noted in 860 C.E.: “Abd Al-Muttalib fathered ten lords, black as the night and magnificent... .Abd Allah Ibn Abbas was blackest in magnificence, and the family of Abu Talib were the most noble of men; and they were black with black skin.” Abd Al-Muttalib was Muhammad’s grandfather. One of those ten sons was Abdullah, Muhammad’s father; another was Abu Talib, Muhammad’s uncle

The Semetic Arabs know this information, but they dont discuss it.

Here is the archeological evidence of ‘Allah’ as a deity of worship from the PRE DYNASTIC period!

http://www.zshare.net/video/allahtempleptahpillar-wmv.html

FILE NAME: allahtempleptahpillar .wmv
FILE SIZE: ~34.73 megabytes


http://www.nathanielturner.com/runokorashidi.htm
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I am just observing, this is interesting.



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Al Islam was BEFORE Arabs BEFORE Muhammed BEFORE Companions


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Assalam alaikum

I noticed to issue here and these arguments have been addressed.

Elijah Muhammed said himself 'I have come to ressurect a people from the BIBLE"

On his death bed he said to Warith Deen Muhammed "Now teach them Islam"

Thus that ends the argument about the 'differences'...

My point and effort is to dispel the myth that Al Islam is an Arab religion

I will post a few references from several sources and a video. Perhaps that will open up some dialogue on the subject.

Original Arabs were Black and they existed before Ishmael, his father and his; grandfather. The FIRST to speak classical Arabic was Yu Arab Ibn Qahtan. In fact this ‘Yu’Arab’ became the name given to this ancient Afro/ Arab tribe. This was cited by As-Suyuti in his al-Wasaa’il fi Musaamarat al-Awaa’il

Qahtan was the ancestor of the Arabs called Arab Al-Muta’arribah who had mixed with the original true Arabs called Arab al-‘Aribah or the Arab al-Baa’idah (the lost Arabs). They are called lost, because their identity submerged into other African tribes who lived in remote Arabia Felix (Yemen) , Somalia, Ethiopia, the Tigre of Eritrea and Nubia

The Northern Arab tribes of Iraq, Syria, and the Persian Gulf were called Arab al-Musta’ribah (‘Arabized Arabs’) who claimed descent from Adnan, and through him, from Isma’il the son of Ibrahim, upon him be peace.

Thus the Arabs you see on TV and at your local store are NOT the ORIGINAL Arabs!

EBONY AND BRONZE RACE AND ETHNICITY IN EARLY ARABIA AND THE ISLAMIC WORLD By Wayne B. Chandler in ‘African Presence in Early Asia’ by Van Sertima Page 287

According to AI-Jahiz, the guardian of the sacred Kaaba Abd Al-Muttalib fathered ten Lords, Black as the night and magnificent. One of these men was Abdallah, the father of Muhammad. Uthman Amr lbn Bahr Al-Jahiz. The Book of the Glory of the Black Race (Los Angeles: Preston, 1981), 50.

Al-Jahiz noted in 860 C.E.: “Abd Al-Muttalib fathered ten lords, black as the night and magnificent... .Abd Allah Ibn Abbas was blackest in magnificence, and the family of Abu Talib were the most noble of men; and they were black with black skin.” Abd Al-Muttalib was Muhammad’s grandfather. One of those ten sons was Abdullah, Muhammad’s father; another was Abu Talib, Muhammad’s uncle

The Semetic Arabs know this information, but they dont discuss it.

Here is the archeological evidence of ‘Allah’ as a deity of worship from the PRE DYNASTIC period!

http://www.zshare.net/video/allahtempleptahpillar-wmv.html

FILE NAME: allahtempleptahpillar .wmv
FILE SIZE: ~34.73 megabytes


http://www.nathanielturner.com/runokorashidi.htm


The dialect of Arabic that is spoken in Saudi Arabia came at least 6000 years AFTER Bamdara and Woloof which the current Arabic dialects derive from.

It was related by both Ibn Sa’d and Ibn Abi Shayba on the authority of as-Sha’abi who said; The FIRST AMONG the Arab al-Musta’ribah (descendants of Ishmael) to write the Arabic language was Harb Ibn Umayya Ibn Abdushams, the father of Abu Sufyaan.

It was said to him Harb Ibn Umayya Ibn Abdushams, ‘From whom did you learn this?’ He said, ‘From the people of Hira.’

It was said ‘And from whom did the people of Hira learn it?’ he said, from the people of Anbar. “

Both Hira and Anbar were ancient cities located along the Euphrates River in Iran.

Google Al-Hirah

Historians believe that Hira itself emerged as an Arab city in the first quarter of the 3rd century.

The language of the people of Hira is similar to the language of the Adnani, who are mentioned in the Quran!

[Al-`Ankabut 29.38] (Remember also) the 'Ad and the Thamud (people). clearly will appear to you from (the traces) of their buildings (their fate). the Evil One made their deeds alluring to them, and kept them back from the Path, though they were gifted with intelligence and skill.

It was related by Waki’u in his al-Gharar, “Muhammad Ibn Ali informed me that, al-Maazinii Abu Bakr Ibn Muhammad informed me, that al-‘Asma’i on the authority of Abu ‘Amr, who said, the first to put Arabic down in writing were two men. One was from Hira and the other was from Anbar. One’s name was Maraamir Ibn Marra and the others name was ‘Aamir Ibn Shadra. NEITHER OF THEM WERE ARABS.

Again view the video which shows Allah as a deity of worship from the Temple of Ptah Pre-Dynastic Nubia in Pyramid Text (vertical). At least 10,000 years BEFORE 'Ra" "Sun" worshipping of the Dynastic Periods (18-25 dynasties).

http://www.zshare.net/video/allahtempleptahpillar-wmv.html

FILE NAME: allahtempleptahpillar .wmv
FILE SIZE: ~34.73 megabytes


http://www.nathanielturner.com/runokorashidi.htm
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1)
ALLAH IS NOT A MAN -
"He begets not, nor was He begotten; And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."
(Al-Ikhlas 112:3-4)

2)
The founder of the Temple(Wallace Dodd, Wali Fard, W. D. Farad or whatever) - IS NOT ALLAH


3)
The Liar, Elijah (or Robert) Poole - IS NOT A PROPHET OR MESSENGER OF ALLAH

4)
Louie "The Liar" Wolcott, Fara-CON - IS NOT A PROPHET OR MESSENGER OF ALLAH

5)
This (F.O.I) Full of Ignorance, (N.O.I) Nation of Idoits, Black Klan, UFO "vision", Prison cult - IS NOT ISLAM

6)
Chicago is NOT the "New Mecca"

7)
Blacks ARE NOT GODS

8)
The 'mad black scientist' Yakub DID NOT "create white people" with some genetic experiment -



9)
ALL WHITE PEOPLE are not devils - If they are, what does that make Wallace Fard when he's white or 1/2 white?

http://www.blackpast.org/files/blackpast_images/Wallace_Fard.jpg

10)
'Judgement Day' IS NOT blacks destroying the entire white race (devils) and establish a Paradise (nation) on this earth ruled forever by the blacks (i.e., Gods).

The Nation has nothing whatsoever to do with Islaam .... Bottom Line.!
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What is the N. O. I.? For Sure, It is NOT Islaam.


Greetings,

I'm writing to you because I assumed you would be interested in the information I'm offering. I recently came across the FBI File of W.D. Fard Muhammad, the (white) man who started the Nation of Islam. You can view it yourself (over 700 pages) (see for your self) ==>FBI - Freedom of Information Act - Wallace D. Fraud


Miscellaneous information about Wallace D. Fard, who is said to be the original founder of the Black Muslim movement. ...


You will need the ability to view PDF files, with a program such as Acrobat 3.0 (or something similar).

There is lots of information (I'm nowhere near finished), but so far, the File proves that Fard Muhammad was white, and lists his criminal records. Finger prints, and photographs prove he is the same man who named Wallie D. Ford, served time at San Quentin, and listed his race as white, as well as a white man named Wallace Farad who was arested in Detroit. When his son was born in 1920, he listed himself as being born in New Zeland to a British father, and a Polynesian mother (which later turned out to be true). There is tons of information on the man who founded the Nation of Islam, and it really crushes NOI doctrine.
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Also, just to let you know, it's in seven parts, go to the seventh part (part 7) and go to page 88, there they have pictures of Fard upon his 1933 arrest in Detroit. (see for your self) ==>FBI - Freedom of Information Act - Wallace D. Fraud
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(see for your self) ==> FBI - Freedom of Information Act - Wallace D. Fraud

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Wallace Fard was born 1891 in New Zealand. He was the founder of the Black Muslim sect, "Lost-Found Nation of Islam in North America". Fard arrived in the United States in 1913, settling briefly in Portland, Oregon. He was arrested in 1918 for violation of the Woolwine Act (California prohibition law) and in 1926, for the violation of the State Poison Act (sale of narcotics) and was sentenced to San Quentin. After his release from prison in 1929, he went to Chicago, then on to Detroit as a silk peddler. In 1934, Fard left Detroit and was never heard from again. A San Francisco newspaper article written in 1963 exposed Fard as an enterprising racketeering fake.




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[*] posted on 8.22.2007 at 06:59 PM


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What is the N. O. I.? For Sure, It is NOT Islaam.


Greetings,

I'm writing to you because I assumed you would be interested in the information I'm offering. I recently came across the FBI File of W.D. Fard Muhammad, the (white) man who started the Nation of Islam. You can view it yourself (over 700 pages) (see for your self) ==>FBI - Freedom of Information Act - Wallace D. Fraud


Miscellaneous information about Wallace D. Fard, who is said to be the original founder of the Black Muslim movement. ...


You will need the ability to view PDF files, with a program such as Acrobat 3.0 (or something similar).

There is lots of information (I'm nowhere near finished), but so far, the File proves that Fard Muhammad was white, and lists his criminal records. Finger prints, and photographs prove he is the same man who named Wallie D. Ford, served time at San Quentin, and listed his race as white, as well as a white man named Wallace Farad who was arested in Detroit. When his son was born in 1920, he listed himself as being born in New Zeland to a British father, and a Polynesian mother (which later turned out to be true). There is tons of information on the man who founded the Nation of Islam, and it really crushes NOI doctrine.
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Also, just to let you know, it's in seven parts, go to the seventh part (part 7) and go to page 88, there they have pictures of Fard upon his 1933 arrest in Detroit. (see for your self) ==>FBI - Freedom of Information Act - Wallace D. Fraud


So Brotha if what you are saying is true then why did Master Fard Muhammds teaching of Islam in America do more for Black People then anything that you are pushing or advocating!

What has the form of Islam that you follow done for us here in America! If it had not been for Mater Fard Muhammad and The Honorable Elijah Muhammad Islam wouldn't exist among Black people in America Today! We would all still be in the Church!

It is so funny to me how the Nation of Islam was the fastest growing Black Islamic movement in the Country but now that you can "Drink from the same cup and eat from the same bowl" with some Krackas now the Nation of Islam is a joke to you!

When Minister Malcolm X assimbled 500 FOI ( strong Black Brothas in unity) outside of the New York police department for one of the Brothas! What other Black Organization, even you who are in "True" Islam, desplayed the power of the God they claim like that! The Nation of Islam under the Leadership of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad has many examples to prove that the God the Honorable Elijah Muhammad represents is the true God!

So me your! Tell me what yours is! You have none! All you have to show me now is that these Arabs are pimping you the same why Kracka Christians are pimping the Black Church!

Black Imams don't control nothing! They are not making any noise in the Black community! And when Minister Farrakhan began to deal with Sunni Islam and Christianity that was the end of his pretending to "Stand back up!"

Minister Malcolm X, when he was pushing Muhammads(The Honorable Elijah Muhammads) program it sparked the Black Power Movement!

What have you and "True" Islam sparked here in America besides more of the same, Boot Licking and Buck dancing!

Deal with His works among the American Blacks! That's how you prove Master Fard Muhammad as being a "fake" but if all you have is some Krackas FBI file then you have nothing to sand on! "Yeah shall know a tree by it's fruit!"




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Bismillah Waslat Wa Salaam 'Ala Rasoolillah.

ARE YOU SERIOUS?


I had not read this nonsense until today, and it does not even warrant a response; but I'm hoping that it will reach your senses and be of some benefit to you, InshaAllah (God willing).

Allaah (The Supreme and Majestic) states in Surah Adh-Dhariyat,

"And I (Allâh) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone)." (Adh-Dhariyat 51:56)


So my question to you is, what does anything that you mentioned have to do with "a black man's" or any Man's or any Woman's Salvation?



Also, you asked
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"So why did Frauds teachings in America.... do more then anything that you are advocating"


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"When Malcolm X assimbled 500 FOI.... What other Black Organization displayed the power of the God like that!"



Have you ever heard of Hajj? This is where every year MILLIONS of people from everywhere gather together to Remember Allah, Thank Allah, and Ask Allah for forgiveness. It was reported that there were over 5 Million Pilgrims visiting the house of Allah in recent pilgrimages.


Furthermore, there is no Racism or Nationalism from the teachings of Islaam.

Allah The exalted states "O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily, the most honourable of you with Allâh is that (believer) who has At-Taqwa [i.e. one of the Muttaqûn (pious - see V.2:2). Verily,(Al-Hujurat 49:13)"


So contrary to the nations misguided beliefs, skin Color is not a determining factor for success.


Secondly, how does Brother Al-Hajj Malik Al-Shabazz gathering 500 people Full Of Ignorance (FOI) outside of a police station benefit anyone when their soul exits they body? Again, our purpose in live is not to gather together based on our ethnicity.

Not only that, what has "The Nation" accomplished? How many times since the FOI "( strong Black Brothas in unity) stood in front of the police station in New York" have blacks been brutally beaten, raped, and killed by police?

How many times since the FOI "( strong Black Brothas in unity) stood in front of the police station in New York" have blacks been inflicted with alcoholism, drug addiction, and senseless
violence?

And how many times since the FOI "( strong Black Brothas in unity) stood in front of the police station in New York" have black suffered from the affect of dysfunctional families, work place discrimination, discrimination in education, and the unfair practice in medical care and medical treatment?


So it is evident that The Nation under the "Leadership" of the Dis-Honorable A Liar Pool or Louie The Liar is proof of nothing.

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"What has (TRUE) Islam that you follow done for us here in America!"


The answer is simple, Islam has brought ALL of mankind through out the world, "black, white, poke-a-dot, stripe" out of the depths and darkness of Shirk - (ascribing partners and offspring to The God, or worshiping others along with The God) - into The Light and Guidance of Al Islaam - (Singling out The God alone in worship, Totally submitted to Him, making all forms of prayer, sacrifice and alms-giving for Him and Him alone). Answering the call as taught by all real prophets and messengers (Peace be upon them) as finalized with The Prophet Muhammed Ibn Abdullah (Peace be upon him), his Companions, The 1st Three Generation of Muslims, and Those Scholars (and students of knowledge) that follow them in good until The Last Day which is what I'm advocating.


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"Had it not been for Fraud, We would all still be in the Church!"

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"Yeah shall know a tree by it's fruit!"


They are still in church!

Have you ever been to a temple? Their service is just like the church service, The "Minister" reading from the bible, people talking through the sermon "Yes Brother Minister", "Preach Black Man", "'Come on", and passing around ICE BUCKETS, several times, taking every penny they can from the people. Hell, the only thing missing is the band and the choir. The only difference is they went from worshipping one man to worshipping another, and they say "As Salaamu Alaykum" and "Islaam". At least, Christians are erroneously worshiping the Honest, Upright, Noble Prophet Jesus (Peace be upon him), who never asked people to worship him.

The nation on the other hand, worship some two bit criminal named Wallace Ford, who was incarcerated in San Quentin for assault and drugs, that later came up with a scheme to get paid like "Father Devine" and "Daddy Grace", but since there were already to many people in the church pimping the pulpits, Fraud decided to use Arabic words, call their places mosque instead of church’s, and use Arabic words from Islaam; while preying on the weak, emotional state of poor blacks, telling them that ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE DEVILS and whites are responsible for the social ills of black people. Yet this swindler was born to a "white mother and a black father" making him half white.


So my question to you is, if "all white are devils", what does that make your
"Master FRAUD"?
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Not to mention how the nation quotes the bible, and hardly, if ever, read from The Noble Qur'aan which they claim to follow.

Or their statements that, "You don't have to go over their, god is right here" discouraging people from making Hajj (The Pilgrimage to Mecca) which is one of the 5 pillars of Islaam prescribed in The Holy Qur'aan. As stated by Rasool Muhammed that was/is at Muhammed Mosque #1 in Detroit.


And how they teach that, you don't have to get an education, "that's the white man's degree", "that's just nothing but a receipt". As stated by Rasool Muhammed that was/is at Muhammed Mosque #1 in Detroit.


Or their teachings that eating once a day, once every other day, or once a week is "How to Eat to Live"


And worse of all, their false claims that this criminal Wallace, "Came in the person of Allah".

ASTAGFIRULLAH! (God Forbids!)


Had any of their leaders taught from The Basic Principles of True Islaam is would be apparent to it's followers as mentioned in Surah Al-Ikhlas (The Purity)

In the Name of Allâh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
Say (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)): "He is Allâh, (the) One.
"Allâh-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks).
"He begets not, nor was He begotten;
"And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."
(Al-Ikhlas 112:1-4)


But of course if the nation taught the fundamental principles of True Islam these Cult Leaders like A-Liar (Elijah) Poole and Louie "The Liar" (Fara-CON) could not continue to duped us, mislead us, take our money, and go on living like kings while we continue to strive and struggle and suffer in the ghettos of America (and elsewhere).


Now I ask you, if his followers are not eating, not getting an education, or not trying to go to Mecca as mandated by Islaam, what are they doing with the money?


Open your eyes, just look, don’t you see how their "Master" is in a mansion, collecting millions in Chicago, exploiting the masses, controlling the minds of his flock, sitting on his throne, with his iced out stick drinking from his clustered chalice.

Not to mention Farrakhan and his family's "ornate palaces in Chicago and Phoenix, his Lexus, Mercedes, Rolls Royce and Lincoln Town Cars, a Mexican villa, a new 77-acre Michigan estate and over $1.5 million dollars in unpaid back taxes." as listed on NOI Exposed


All this while are ignorant brothers are on the track Slang’N them Lies and Bean pies in Bo Ties, drinking the purple Kool-Aid and "Waiting by The Water", for "Our Savior" to arrive..... and this is "The Message to The Black Man"?



Now you tell me who's Pimping?


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Those who reject Our Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) are deaf and dumb in darkness. Allâh sends astray whom He wills and He guides on the Straight Path whom He wills.
(Al-An'am 6:39)




May Allah (The Sublime and Majestic) Guide you and Correct your situation.... Ameen




allahuma salee muhammed wa ali muhammed salatal ibraheem wa ali ibraheem innaka hameedun majeed,
allahuma brak muhammed wa ali muhammed baraktal ibraheem wa ali ibraheem innaka hameedun majeed.
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