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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 09:56 AM
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This is inspired by the interviewing black people thread.

As black people whether in supporting black busineses or going to interview for black companies, do we expect hand outs? Meaning do we automatically expect to receive a discount from a black business that we would otherwise not expect from a white business? Do we go into interviews expecting to be hired just because we are black?

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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 10:03 AM


Well...I have no expectations from job interviews except they take my background and experience into consideration.

I have no expectations from businesses except they give me the best product for my buck.

I look for discounts REGARDLESS of who is selling me something. I look for hookups REGARDLESS of who's hiring.

So, I tend to be equal opportunity when it comes to getting stuff and getting by and getting over.:whistle:




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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 10:08 AM


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So, I tend to be equal opportunity when it comes to getting stuff and getting by and getting over.:whistle:


First :lol:

Second--- I know the argument has been made that some black business want your business as black folk, yet they refuse to provide the same kinds of and quality of product offered by their pale peers.

What say you?




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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 10:11 AM


I honestly know for a fact there are people out there who swear that they should be hired just because they are Black... and to me it's sad. Yes, we know what and how our previous generations were picked over. Yes, we are aware that it's more competition, and we have to be 2 times better than YT when we are applying ourselves, but do I feel I should be hired just because... I'm black.. No. I feel I should be hired because I am qualified for the job, and the best candidate of others applying and skin color/ethnicity has nothing to do with that.



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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 10:13 AM


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So, I tend to be equal opportunity when it comes to getting stuff and getting by and getting over.:whistle:


First :lol:

Second--- I know the argument has been made that some black business want your business as black folk, yet they refuse to provide the same kinds of and quality of product offered by their pale peers.

What say you?


I doth protest! I like to make purchases at black-owned establishments. I do not for one minute say that all black-owned businesses operate the same.

I've seen shady businesses and some of my favorites are black-owned...from restaurants to cleaners.

I think it's just stereotypes. I don't get only bad service from black folks...I get plenty of bad service from white-owned establishments. And lately they are the ONLY ones giving me bad service. So, I don't agree with it at all.

Black businesses are alright with me.




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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 10:17 AM


I do not believe it is the expectation of a hand out that swirls through the hearts and mind of Black folk when being interviewed by a Black company or Black person, it is more along the lines of expecting the same kind of favoritism that white folk give to one another via the practice of white supremacy and white skin privilege or at the very least be judged on our qualifications and experience. As far as businesses and the expectation of a discount, I believe some of us have unreasonable expectations of Black business and asked things of a Black business owner we would never ask of someone else. However, simultaneously many Black businesses do not seek to partner with the Black folk they serve and see them simply as their customer base, thus making them no different than the blood suckers from outside our community.



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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 10:18 AM


I don't expect anything. When I go to a job interview I don't even expect to get reviewed, considered fairly. If my Blackness gives me extra points, I won't lose sleep over that either.
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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 10:26 AM


What is so bad about a hand out anyways?

If you can get something for free, why pay for it?:dunno:

Isn't that the American way.:whistle:




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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 10:29 AM


^^ :hifive: tell it Tafui



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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 10:35 AM


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^^ :hifive: tell it Tafui


And I'm dead serious too.:ummm:




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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 11:12 AM


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I do not believe it is the expectation of a hand out that swirls through the hearts and mind of Black folk when being interviewed by a Black company or Black person, it is more along the lines of expecting the same kind of favoritism that white folk give to one another via the practice of white supremacy and white skin privilege or at the very least be judged on our qualifications and experience. As far as businesses and the expectation of a discount, I believe some of us have unreasonable expectations of Black business and asked things of a Black business owner we would never ask of someone else. However, simultaneously many Black businesses do not seek to partner with the Black folk they serve and see them simply as their customer base, thus making them no different than the blood suckers from outside our community.


What is interesting here is what you said about whites giving other whites jobs due to skin privilege. Would you agree that the thinking of black getting hired by blacks because they are black is not a bad thing? Because you are right, whites have done this and still do this.




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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 11:14 AM


Tafui-

About Hand outs. I understand what you are saying. I mean as black people we feel like we have to work for EVERYTHING WE get. I don't disagree and really that is the noble way, IMHO to go, but you are right the American way, generally speaking surely is about hand outs, seeing as Africans gave America the free hand out of labor so that she could be prosperous :whistle:




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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 11:53 AM


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Tafui-

About Hand outs. I understand what you are saying. I mean as black people we feel like we have to work for EVERYTHING WE get. I don't disagree and really that is the noble way, IMHO to go, but you are right the American way, generally speaking surely is about hand outs, seeing as Africans gave America the free hand out of labor so that she could be prosperous :whistle:


And everything America was built upon was all about the hustle. They didn't "technically" work hard for very much at all. That is why we see phrases like, "it's not what you know, but who you know."

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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 01:00 PM


I only expect fair treatment. I expect that the black business will not offer preferential treatment to white customers. On job interviews, I just fee more relaxed that I probably will not have to worry about not getting the job because of my race.
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[*] posted on 9.18.2006 at 04:50 PM


I have been in black establishments and as soon as the clerk/waiter sees a white patron they begin that "shuffle", one that would otherwise be non-existent for my buck. Oh well my rant. To piggyback atop Faheem's comment, what's wrong with black companies hiring us predominately? That's how white folks have kept the status quo "quo'd" all these years right? As long as the employee is qualified to do the job, hire their black ass without delay. The EEOC cannot bytch unless you do it without regard to common sense and decorum.

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