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![[*]](./images/reflections/default_icon.gif) posted on 2.17.2006 at 04:38 AM |
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The White, Lesbian Feminist Culture and It's Impact on the Black Man, Woman and Child
In response to a cocoalouge member, I have created this thread to explain why I make the claims I do regarding this demonic way of thinking. I'm not
going to write much at this setting because I'm going to bed. But I'll share a few thoughts now.
1) The black family, historically defined as man, woman and child, has been the center of attack and disarray, expressly, since our sojourn to these
United States of America.
2) Any society recognizes the role of family in building a strong and viable society and nation.
3) Warfare takes on many dimensions, the most obvious and visual, direct physical (i.e. military), but there are also more subtle and implicit forms
of attack.
4) During the 1960's and '70's, when the Black Power movements were at there peak,and causing much disconternation to the white power structure,
the subtle, more psychological form of attacks began to emerge. The woman's lib movement came out at that time to cause distraction to the legitimate
black movement.
As a result, where black women, who had come "home" to her man and family saw race as a primary focus in our salvation, the women's lib movement
tricked, cajoled, seduced her into thinking that MEN were the problem. NOT white men, but men. Subconsciously, this surplanting into the brains of
black women caused a rift in her collective, community, black thinking, creating a more individualized, self-centered, narrow-minded thinking.
Since men, black men by default are the enemy, instead of working with us, she became an enemy, joining the open and obvious enemy.
We began to hear the talk of "I don't need a man", a common philosophy ranted by the white woman. This was the common mantra of the [whitewoman's] feminist movement, which became the new ideological expression of woman's lib. Furthermore, who else would plant the seeds of such an
outrage if not a lesbian?
Once this type of thinking takes root, it becomes very difficult to work in harmony. Where once we recognized the man as being charged with the
primary responsibility of providing, protecting and leading his family, his role is now in doubt, trivialized and diminished. What assists in this
process is the institutionalization of programs and principles which help to cement this. Thus we have a socialization process where black boys, for
example, are destroyed by the 4th grade. Attitudes, body language, miseducation, all playing a role as they are seen as the potential enemy when they
become men.
Programs that are geared more towards "empowering" women as opposed to black people have emerged, only to further the process of diminishing the
black man.
One of the most devestating results of this movement are indeed seen in the state of black males. A culturization were they are seen as threats (men)
and not dignified human beings supports the notion that men are not needed, which means fathers are not needed. Without fathers, boys have a much more
difficult way to go and grow as men themselves. We see each day, results of this damage, again, which was hatched by the feminist movement.
In the promotion of "strength" and "independance" , we have an entire generation that has no respect for chastity, God or any sense of moral
constraint. We have today, Maury, where HOES are honored for sleeping with a multitude of males.
Homosexuality has become an accepted lifestyle where feminist philosophy has been allowed to take root. Despite evidence of the rise of AIDS due
primarily to homosexuality, we still find ourselves defending the indefensible. We have actually been deceived into thinking that GOD himself, in his
design, created males to cling to males and females to females. Look today, how homosexuality becomes a campaign issue, with all of the real issues
regarding black people that need to be addressed! Just look at the Supreme Court nominees. Who's concerned about black people, except for token
references? The detractors are much more concerned with the views on abortion and homosexuality. Go figure.
In closing, my term is so aptly applied because the architects, originators, purveyors of this culture are primarily white, who promote feminism, and
many definitely practice or promote lesbianism. Of course not all feminists are white or lesbian, but the term, which is a general one, hits home as
to the general culture, atmosphere and mindset, wrapped up into a package, of what we are up against.
I didn't even go into the woes of the abortion-on-demand movement and it's devestating impact on the social mores' of black people.
In support of my notion, I have always suggested the following websites.
http://www.blacktown.net
http://www.blackland.org
http://www.savethemales.ca
http://www.glennsacks.com
http://www.blackgenocide.org
http://www.akobenhouse.com
(check out the book, Homosexuality and the Effeminization of African Males).
I wrote more than I intended, but it is what it is.
I hope I have articulated my views in a clear and consise manner.
PEACE!
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| posted on 2.17.2006 at 06:47 AM |
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 im not a big fan of feminism and i agree witha lot of what you have said above, but i would like to mention is that women should be entitled to
equal pay as men if their men are not going to support them or their children.
if i feel that i can find a man that will take care of me and be able to financial, socially and culturally support me and my family then [Censored]all that feminist [Censored], but men now days just dont give much thought about being there for their women and kids or keeping their jobs etc. but
not all men are like that.
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Kwame
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| posted on 2.17.2006 at 09:21 AM |
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welcome black, StrongBlackMan.... to scan the directory of topics is to see more of a rag sheet," than of life relevant issues....'
I hope doesn't happen here that I've seen at other sites, packed with slander and gossip; "eye candy", photos of hollywierd's crews.... gradually
end end b n str8 up porno
Shawna deserves better.
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deep_thinker
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| posted on 2.17.2006 at 01:56 PM |
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Why does this look like a regurgitation of something you posted before?
If the wise are not calm their manner is not perfect; if no calm comes in battle the army gets no rest. If there is no calm between feasts the master
and the mistress of the house cannot enjoy themselves and if there is no calm in the temple God abandons it.
Righteous Without Shame.
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QueenAminah
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| posted on 2.17.2006 at 02:03 PM |
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 she said regurgitation
Loving me... 
Compromise, to a certain degree becomes surrender.... |
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blackcaesar
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| posted on 2.17.2006 at 02:13 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by deep_thinker
Why does this look like a regurgitation of something you posted before? |
it is a synopsis f his relative viewpoint; a viewpoint that seems to permeate in all his responses.
Could it be possible that society is becoming more individually self sufficient, independent, and isolated? There are so many types of communication
and stimulation available that human contact and/ or dependence on another human does not even involve direct human contact at all. The sense of
family and community has eroded more and mre as technolgy increases. Perhaps the real enemy is technology driven independence.
I also believe that there are relative societal roles that have historically been reserved to males that have become asexual in nature, serving to
emasculate men across the board. These gender based roles emerge from women desiring empowerment. The relative shift in a balance of power causes
dissention and resentment both from those who have lost power and those that desire to gain.
Furthermore, I feel as if these issues are at root, non racially specific and transcend all races. There are complications stemming from these issues
when compounded with other issues of racial or cultural identity.
On top of that, women sure are pretty. Women will agree.
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
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Soul Cry
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| posted on 2.17.2006 at 02:15 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by blackcaesar
| Quote: | Originally posted by deep_thinker
Why does this look like a regurgitation of something you posted before? |
it is a synopsis f his relative viewpoint; a viewpoint that seems to permeate in all his responses.
Could it be possible that society is becoming more individually self sufficient, independent, and isolated? There are so many types of communication
and stimulation available that human contact and/ or dependence on another human does not even involve direct human contact at all. The sense of
family and community has eroded more and mre as technolgy increases. Perhaps the real enemy is technology driven independence.
I also believe that there are relative societal roles that have historically been reserved to males that have become asexual in nature, serving to
emasculate men across the board. These gender based roles emerge from women desiring empowerment. The relative shift in a balance of power causes
dissention and resentment both from those who have lost power and those that desire to gain.
Furthermore, I feel as if these issues are at root, non racially specific and transcend all races. There are complications stemming from these issues
when compounded with other issues of racial or cultural identity.
On top of that, women sure are pretty. Women will agree. |
VERY well said.
*~*~ Afraka - "flesh and soul of the hidden Sun" ~*~*
*~* Out Of Many, One People *~*
“The only kind of dignity which is genuine is that which is not diminished by the indifference of others.”
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein
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Dutchess
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| posted on 2.17.2006 at 02:21 PM |
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I'm not taking up for the womans movement you speak of here. I just want to add a little something thought.
I remember a period around the early 60/70's that the words "Self", "Look out for Self", were strongly promoted by the Muslims (via their
newspapers) and thinking to myself, folks are going to take that wrong. The wordings wrong. It shouldn't be "self" but family.
I see today the results of that "self" promotion. I'm not saying this was purposely done by them, I don't believe it was. But it sure was
capitalized on. The seed was planted and grew. It led into the "I can do all and be all that I want to be by myself and later the "me generation
thinking" that you bring up in your discussion here.
Lets not forget Affirmative Action and its contribution to this movement. The program to supposedly allow equal access to more black people in
employment, education, etc. etc. suddently took on the role of "and or women". What woman? White one of course. So the so called "law" that was
going to break down the barriers put up by white folks to keep our folks (mainly our men) out of work and higher education came to be a watered down
pipe dream.
A lot of people did propser as a result of the program, but it was created to be dismantled after a given amount of time and it has been.
I end this by saying, I don't think our women were as affected by the womans movement as you attribute here. There were and are many many more
factors involved that contributed to this way of thinking you speak of.
The closing of steel mills for one thing, forced many a woman who was a homemaker at the time out of the home to find work.
Our plight was used against us as it always is. I remember the first time I saw a white woman in a gas man's uniform "WTF", and my brothers needed
a job? Yep, thats was AA for you, remember "and or women", what women?
I might have wrote too much.
.. just as the rain descends .. does not return unless it .. saturates the earth.......so my word goes forth from my mouth will prove to be. . it will
not return without results, .... Is 55:10-11
I like long walks especially when they are taken by people who annoy me....
Noel Coward
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Strongblackman
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| posted on 2.18.2006 at 03:41 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dutchess
I'm not taking up for the womans movement you speak of here. I just want to add a little something thought.
I remember a period around the early 60/70's that the words "Self", "Look out for Self", were strongly promoted by the Muslims (via their
newspapers) and thinking to myself, folks are going to take that wrong. The wordings wrong. It shouldn't be "self" but family.
I see today the results of that "self" promotion. I'm not saying this was purposely done by them, I don't believe it was. But it sure was
capitalized on. The seed was planted and grew. It led into the "I can do all and be all that I want to be by myself and later the "me generation
thinking" that you bring up in your discussion here.
Lets not forget Affirmative Action and its contribution to this movement. The program to supposedly allow equal access to more black people in
employment, education, etc. etc. suddently took on the role of "and or women". What woman? White one of course. So the so called "law" that was
going to break down the barriers put up by white folks to keep our folks (mainly our men) out of work and higher education came to be a watered down
pipe dream.
A lot of people did propser as a result of the program, but it was created to be dismantled after a given amount of time and it has been.
I end this by saying, I don't think our women were as affected by the womans movement as you attribute here. There were and are many many more
factors involved that contributed to this way of thinking you speak of.
The closing of steel mills for one thing, forced many a woman who was a homemaker at the time out of the home to find work.
Our plight was used against us as it always is. I remember the first time I saw a white woman in a gas man's uniform "WTF", and my brothers needed
a job? Yep, thats was AA for you, remember "and or women", what women?
I might have wrote too much. |
Interesting points here.
I agree with you on the AA piece. In its initial stages, black women, by default, benefitted, and of course black men would too. Once "women"
became a category, then white women, which meant by default white men (their husbands and sons and daughters) would get the unwarranted benefits also.
The monies and resources that should have exclusively for the BLACK family, by design, where scatterd and refunneled in the name of "gender
equality". And we can see the impact on the black man, as he has to take a back seat to the white woman.
This was diabolical and a deeper nail into the coffin for our people. These people understand the art of war. We do NOT! I think a good analogy of
what has happened can be viewed when economic sanctions are levied against a nation. America and Britian, for example, will not deal with any nation
it considers rogue. As an American citizen, I must follow suit. But I can get around it if I deal with a nation who is not a party to that embargo.
In other words, like the white-woman highjack of affirmative action, the funds are moved (diverted) right back to the "enemy" (white community/male)
through the female (abetting partner supposedly neutral and not a threat).
Deep asked why I was rehashing what I'd stated so clearly and powerfully before. I was asked to, so I did. What I would hope we do is objectively
review our movements and struggles for the 1960's on, carefully noting the changes in the societal morals and mores' with respect to their impact of
black social. spiritual and familial dynamics. I believe once we make these connections, my viewpoint will be better understood by more people.
PEACE!
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Kwame
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| posted on 2.18.2006 at 04:17 PM |
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only an strictly analytical mindset will separate "Do for self" as a call to individualism.
Bad misread.
I paraphrase who were addressed: The Lost Found Nation of Black People, then called Negoes. The deaf, the dumb and the blind.
One other point; who can dispute much of what the brutha writes? Does repetition lessen its relevance or correct analysis?
Yeah I know, b n born and raised here, what's new is attractive, not what's true.
Keep "blowing your horn," my brutha; for conditions worsen as we read this. I mean, partly, look at how at how nonchalant posts appear discussing
fornication, adultery, homosexuality AND abortion.
And its noted that your piece is dealing with social problems, not an isolated individual... which is what most responses are: individualistic.
Also to be noted is your listing of references for those who want to check your thoughts. Unlike me, generally I quote authors and direct disputers to
them. I don't have time to convince people that Afrikan folk are deep into problems worldwide. Sometimes I feel: "don't woke'em; let'em
slept."
But naw; Im in this sinking ship too. I don't intend to go down as in a Titanic!
Roll on StrongBlackMan, u ain't alone.
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BrownBomber
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| posted on 2.18.2006 at 04:20 PM |
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You guys are way too serious....Time to lighten up just a bit!(laugh).
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babybear
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| posted on 2.18.2006 at 04:39 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bconway
You guys are way too serious....Time to lighten up just a bit!(laugh). |
I agree. Take a breath and EXHALE.........
I'm Just Me 
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Prettymama
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| posted on 2.18.2006 at 05:04 PM |
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Sorry I must say this, not to disrespect anyone within this forum. Strongblackman why is it that every discussion end with a rant on liberal white
lesbian feminist. I see valid points and contributions however in aleast TWO other forums U have mentioned liberal white lesbian feminist. WHY what
is it about them that riles U up and what do they have to do with us? Without question everyone and their dog has leaned on the civil rights that the
black in this country fought for without an after thought then accuse black people of using the crutch. Yes noted. Now again I say what is it about
liberal white feminist that has you riled up?
I DO NOT CATER TO IGNORANCE
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Kwame
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| posted on 2.18.2006 at 05:07 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bconway
You guys are way too serious....Time to lighten up just a bit!(laugh). |
u're "free" to tell some jokes; somebody else will laugh with u.
Zionist Jews on their way to Auschwitz probably stopped laugh'n when their reality exploed in their sleeping mindsets.
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deep_thinker
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| posted on 2.18.2006 at 05:36 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Strongblackman
I believe once we make these connections, my viewpoint will be better understood by more people. |
Your viewpoint has always been understood. The problem is that you want us to agree, and some of us simply do not and will not.
You cannot expect to change minds simply because of your say-so. You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to respectfully disagree.
Rehashing it over and over again will not alter the outcome.
If the wise are not calm their manner is not perfect; if no calm comes in battle the army gets no rest. If there is no calm between feasts the master
and the mistress of the house cannot enjoy themselves and if there is no calm in the temple God abandons it.
Righteous Without Shame.
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