Kwame
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![[*]](./images/reflections/default_icon.gif) posted on 11.29.2005 at 03:56 PM |
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MARIMBA ANI: AFRIKAN - EURO WORLDVIEWS
"Every world-view generates a set of metaphysical definitions and can only be explained or understood using those definitions as reference
points. Gross distortions and misconceptions result when alien metaphysical conceptions are injected into cross-cultural analysis of a given
world-view.
The European and African world-views are so different, in such crucial aspects, that explanations of the African world-view that use European
definitions are blatantly absurd. (The implications, of course, have been especially serious because of the political relationship of these two
cultures).
The African world-view is characterized by Unity, Harmony, spirituality, and organic interrelationship.
The European world-view is characterized by compartmentalization (isolation, separation), control (power relationships), conflict (tension),
materialism, and mechanical relationship.
As a result, traditional African society is a microcosm of the natural cosmic environment, in which people are actively and closely involved and with
which they identify;
whereas western society is an unnatural technically efficient order, set within an artificially materialized universe, in which people experience
painful alienation, both from the modes in which they are forced to function (institutions) and each other."
Marimba Ani
Let the Circle Be Unbroken
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tafui
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| posted on 11.29.2005 at 04:28 PM |
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Yes. I was introduced to worldview paradigms from Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop's Two Cradle Theory.
It is VERY true that the European cradle of civilization centers on "survival of the fittest" whereas the African cradle of civilization centers on
"survival of the group".
I don't know what there is to debate. Seems alright with me.
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Faheem
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| posted on 11.29.2005 at 04:35 PM |
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 nothing to debate here people, keep it moving....
The most important question to consider when debunking racial mythology is not whether it is true. If a myth is to
stand the test of time it has to contain at least some truth, but just throwing inconsistent facts at it doesn’t make it go away, either. The most
important questions to ask in order to debunk powerful racial myths are what values do they transmit and whose interests do they serve?
http://blackintrospection.blogspot.com/[/align] |
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Salehdin
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| posted on 11.29.2005 at 04:48 PM |
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E-Prime solves all of the noise problems described....English without the verb to be, nothing "is" things can only be viewed to be a c ertain way
under certain circumstances. Quantum theory scientists ran into the same problems and solved them through this method..
However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them?
- Buddha
Truth, Benevolence, Forbearance.
Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.
- Buddha
When you give a shilling to a beggar - do you realize that you are giving it to yourself? When you help a lame dog over a stile - do you realize that
you yourself are being helped? When you kick a man when he is down - do you realize that you are kicking yourself? Give him another kick - if you
deserve it!
-Wei Wu Wei
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Osunkoya-Ifayomi
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| posted on 11.29.2005 at 06:17 PM |
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The World is a Marketplace
Heaven is home
Ifaleye_Ominiyi
I am an initiated Ifa Priest, Osun (Oshun) Priest, and Egungun Priest
Ifaleye-Ominiyi-Ifaojewonyomi
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tafui
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| posted on 11.29.2005 at 07:54 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Salehdin
E-Prime solves all of the noise problems described....English without the verb to be, nothing "is" things can only be viewed to be a c ertain way
under certain circumstances. Quantum theory scientists ran into the same problems and solved them through this method.. |
Speak more of this, please.
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Kwame
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| posted on 11.29.2005 at 09:12 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tafui
Yes. I was introduced to worldview paradigms from Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop's Two Cradle Theory.
It is VERY true that the European cradle of civilization centers on "survival of the fittest" whereas the African cradle of civilization centers on
"survival of the group".
I don't know what there is to debate. Seems alright with me. |
Actually tafui, its posted here to spread its viewing. U probably know, as well as others who responded, that much more is involved than
remembering a simplified distinction, as u've indicated in referring to Cheikh Anta Diop's work. Also Ena Marimba's YURUGU: An African
Centered Critique of European Cultural Thought and Behavior goes a long way to help Afrikans and their descendent/cousins to recognize
European thought & behavior forms in ourselves.
For me it, Yurugu, has bcome an element in my knowledge of self. IMO, thereby prodding us to become more active and certain in actions said to be in
the causes of Pan Afrikanism. As well as some knowledge of self, based in Afrikanness, not as an Asiatic Black man. But an Afrikan Continental Black
man.
As I examine many debates, discussions online, its becoming more clearer to me than b4 when and how ancient Greek thought forms and arguments are
used.
And sometimes its painful to recognize how deep they are in my own make up.
To paraphrase Marimba Ani, we're infected regardless of which European school/colleges we attend. Including, imo, HBCU's. And the three major
religions we get into in this country. In this connection Ayi Kwei Armah's Two Thousand Seasons is prophetic in that we, as a people,
have a very extended struggles to continue towards freed dom(s). One more indicator of "education's" potency, u may recall Dr. Carter G. Woodson's
words re what could happen if only the "highly educated" Black folks had acted and will today in our behalf.
They haven't partly bcause either distinctions btween Afrikan & European Worldviews are seen as insignificant or are not known as such by our
"highly educated" Black folk. It doesn't matter many think.
Ya kno, when we see or hear it said or written that knowledge has no color. Its an abstract thing.
Well, its colored by worldviews and cultures.
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Salehdin
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| posted on 11.30.2005 at 11:13 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tafui
| Quote: | Originally posted by Salehdin
E-Prime solves all of the noise problems described....English without the verb to be, nothing "is" things can only be viewed to be a c ertain way
under certain circumstances. Quantum theory scientists ran into the same problems and solved them through this method.. |
Speak more of this, please. |
Check this link...
http://www.rawilson.com/quantum.shtml
However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them?
- Buddha
Truth, Benevolence, Forbearance.
Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.
- Buddha
When you give a shilling to a beggar - do you realize that you are giving it to yourself? When you help a lame dog over a stile - do you realize that
you yourself are being helped? When you kick a man when he is down - do you realize that you are kicking yourself? Give him another kick - if you
deserve it!
-Wei Wu Wei
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tafui
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| posted on 11.30.2005 at 12:40 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Salehdin
| Quote: | Originally posted by tafui
| Quote: | Originally posted by Salehdin
E-Prime solves all of the noise problems described....English without the verb to be, nothing "is" things can only be viewed to be a c ertain way
under certain circumstances. Quantum theory scientists ran into the same problems and solved them through this method.. |
Speak more of this, please. |
Check this link...
http://www.rawilson.com/quantum.shtml
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Thanks. I've read through most of it and I'm enjoying it. I like it. I had a friend who would speak like this without actually giving it a name
(E prime). It's about clearly defining words and what we say so that there is no confusion about what we mean. I likes. Thanks again.
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Kwame
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| posted on 11.30.2005 at 05:02 PM |
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Salehdin is this an example of a distinct EuroCentric form?
Marimba Ani's article is about European cosmology compared to Afrikan worldview. Since no one wants to debate , your piece is cool. If u intend to
show it as example of an EuroCentric "something." Then I will at least bring forth some comparable info or example to indicate or show almost
diametric different views.
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Salehdin
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| posted on 12.1.2005 at 12:25 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Kwame
Salehdin is this an example of a distinct EuroCentric form?
Marimba Ani's article is about European cosmology compared to Afrikan worldview. Since no one wants to debate , your piece is cool. If u intend to
show it as example of an EuroCentric "something." Then I will at least bring forth some comparable info or example to indicate or show almost
diametric different views. |
Thats all it was just an example in support of what the author was saying about the Eurocentric worldview and ways to see through its illusions..
However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them?
- Buddha
Truth, Benevolence, Forbearance.
Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.
- Buddha
When you give a shilling to a beggar - do you realize that you are giving it to yourself? When you help a lame dog over a stile - do you realize that
you yourself are being helped? When you kick a man when he is down - do you realize that you are kicking yourself? Give him another kick - if you
deserve it!
-Wei Wu Wei
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